“No EVs on a dead planet”

[DonTom]

The car haters, EV or not.

"Climate Activists Dragged Out of New York Auto Show After Tossing Oil on EV"​

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[Ray-IN]

I'l like to read that the EPA slapped them with fines and restitution for cleanup costs for creating an environmental hazard, re: disposing of motor oil improperly.

 

[Skookum]

If people stopped having so many dang kids, that would help.... maybe?

 

[Ray-IN]

If people stopped having so many dang kids, that would help.... maybe?

Perhaps China has a good long-term solution to population.

 

[Chef Duane]

It's not the amount of kids, it's the way they are raised.

 

[Oldgator73]

If people stopped having so many dang kids, that would help.... maybe?

We aren’t having anymore. Had two. One made us wish the pill was retroactive.

 

[DonTom]

Perhaps China has a good long-term solution to population.

If you mean their old one-child policy, that has been gone since year 2016. Now they are allowed to have three kids.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[NY_Dutch]

The irony of their "No EVs on a dead planet" is that on places like the moon, Mars, and other planets that don't sustain life, EVs are the only practical vehicles for moving about..

 

[Isaac-1]

I am always amazed at the things some people manage to get themselves so worked up over.

 

[John From Detroit]

If people stopped having so many dang kids, that would help.... maybe?

The problem there is that though the Rich can go to a concert. or a movie. or a play or a ball game.. With tickets often in the triple digits. (I remember when Concert tickets were less than 20 bucks. often less than 10 and movies. A dollar or two)

The poor can't afford that so what do they do for fun... Don't answer that. But more poor children are often the result.

Today.. I often ask which is environmentally better ICE or EV. AT THIS TIME I think it's a competition but times are changing as we go to less damaging production of electricity .
More and more wind/solar/hydro and even nuke power. The palisades plant here in Michigan is being re-commissioned. Not a new plant (it's been there for years) but The owners shut it down.. New owners are re-commissioning.

 

[DonTom]

I often ask which is environmentally better ICE or EV.

Even if it pollutes the earth equally, I will rather have the tailpipes farther away from me than the cars right in front when I am on the freeway.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[DonTom]

I often ask which is environmentally better ICE or EV.

There is nothing to ask. It has all been figured out. Did you watch the video here? I know you were in that thread.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[Gary RV_Wizard]

If people stopped having so many dang kids, that would help.... maybe?

The US birth rate has been declining since the 1930's. Dropped 23% in the last 15 years alone. Doesn't seem to have helped at all.

 

[Oldgator73]

The problem there is that though the Rich can go to a concert. or a movie. or a play or a ball game.. With tickets often in the triple digits. (I remember when Concert tickets were less than 20 bucks. often less than 10 and movies. A dollar or two)

I think we were middle class when I was growing up. Went out to eat once a week. No movies or concerts though. My parents purchased a home when I was probably 3 years old. New car every 3-4 years.
We go to concerts every now and then. Taking the grandkids to see Stomp in June. Wife and I occasionally see a play in NYC. Take a couple of cruises a year. We aren’t rich. After I retired the second time we stopped saving money and do not spend anything in our investments. I keep hearing how so many are struggling now but I’m not seeing it.

 

[DonTom]

Doesn't seem to have helped at all.

That's the US. Look at the entire picture (and many of these move here):

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[Derby6]

We aren’t rich. After I retired the second time we stopped saving money and do not spend anything in our investments. I keep hearing how so many are struggling now but I’m not seeing it.

We are the same. It’s because you (and I and many others) worked hard, saved and lived within your means. New cars every 1-2 years, running up debt and CC’s, etc—gotta have what I want and want it now mentality is killing so many.

So many think I’m rich. But I still work piloting oversize loads so I can have things, take time off, and not touch my IRA’s or 401’s.

 

[John From Detroit]

There is nothing to ask. It has all been figured out. Did you watch the video here? I know you were in that thread.

-Don- Reno, NV

Yes I did but the video failed to convince me.. As I said "I often ask which is environmentally better ICE or EV" There are many who claim to be experts. Many who claim to have figured it out. Not all agree and it's far enough above my pay grade that I can only ask.

Now in days to come.. It will switch to EV's being best... but at this time.. I'm am not convinced.

 

[darsben]

It's not the amount of kids, it's the way they are raised.

yes but we raised them

 

[DonTom]

There are many who claim to be experts.

Yes, I have noticed that also. But the ones who claim ICE are cleaner or as clean as EVs can usually be caught in lies every time, other than the one issue that EV's are not as clean to build, which is true, because of the mining for the lithium and perhaps other stuff. But everything else more than makes up for it, and it's really not even debatable at this point. The tire BS almost had me convinced for a little while, until I checked more into it.

-Don- Reno, NV

 

[Chef Duane]

yes but we raised them

Yes. That's part of the problem.