SF Bay Area gas prices

[Tom]

I was casually watching local news yesterday when this popped on screen. Stated to be the highest gas prices in the Bay Area, actually in Menlo Park. Might be time to buy a horse and buggy. Fortunately, we drive relatively few 'local' miles and, when we get out of town, we experience much lower prices in other states.

 

[Gary RV_Wizard]

Incredible! Here in South Florida we complain about $3.60 because most of the rest of the state is 10-25 cents cheaper. But these days I only need to buy 12 gallons about once a month, so pricey fuel isn't much impact anyway.

 

[TonyL]

I dread to think what the price is in Furnace Creek then!

 

[RRR]

I was casually watching local news yesterday when this popped on screen. Stated to be the highest gas prices in the Bay Area, actually in Menlo Park. Might be time to buy a horse and buggy. Fortunately, we drive relatively few 'local' miles and, when we get out of town, we experience much lower prices in other states.

But how much is hay in the Bay? Then there is the problem with cleaning up the exhaust.

 

[dave54]

I dread to think what the price is in Furnace Creek then!

I just looked it up.
Cheaper, at $6.75

 

[DonTom]

I dread to think what the price is in Furnace Creek then!

Charge your EV for free at Furnace Creek! (right across the street from Sunset).

Ten charge stations, all free to use (charging my bike there at 6.5 KW as I have lunch in my RV in Sunset):.


-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[dave54]

It is cheaper once you leave the Bay Area.
Closer to $5 in the rest of the state.

Still,when I leave for a trip, I drive slow and easy to save gas until I cross the state line, then make my first fill up. Same for coming home. I top off to the brim before crossing the line back into California.

 

[DonTom]

Might be time to buy a horse and buggy.

Or an EV. I saw many Teslas the last time I was in the Menlo Park area, in year 2019.

However, electricity isn't all that cheap in CA either.

Gas is about the same as CA in Reno, but electricity is now about half of the CA price (used to be about one third the price of CA) .

I think Reno's gasoline comes from CA.

There in Discovery Bay your home electricity rate is 43 cents per KWH. One KWH will get you around 3.5 miles in a Tesla. So 35 miles will cost you $4.30 on a home charge at a steady 65 MPH. Even better at slower speeds. EVs get great range and mileage in stop & go traffic, unlike ICE, which are the opposite.

BTW, your home electric rate I think is the very highest I have ever seen anywhere. Some fast chargers are cheaper than that. Not cheap to live in Discovery Bay!

Here in Auburn, my electric rate is 33 cents per KWH.

Reno is 18 cents per KWH.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[Chef Duane]

Per gas buddy... cheapest local gas here in Dallas is $3.13 for regular.

 

[Isaac-1]

I paid $2.99 earlier this week, GasBuddy is now showing the gas station near my house where I normally fill up is at $3.09 here in Louisiana.

 

[Lou Schneider]

I was casually watching local news yesterday when this popped on screen. Stated to be the highest gas prices in the Bay Area, actually in Menlo Park. Might be time to buy a horse and buggy. Fortunately, we drive relatively few 'local' miles and, when we get out of town, we experience much lower prices in other states.

This just points up the huge tax discrepancy between CA and neighboring states. When I visit my sister near Bass Lake I make it a point to fill up at the Chuckchansi Indian Casino. Their gas prices are up to a dollar per gallon less than other gas stations in the area because as a sovereign nation they can choose where to buy their fuel. They send tankers to Reno to fill up instead of buying their fuel locally so they can pay NV instead of CA taxes on the fuel. Logistically this doesn't make sense - Reno has no refineries, their gasoline is refined in California and sent there via pipeline, then it's loaded onto a tanker to be delivered back into the state.

Same holds true in Las Vegas - all of their fuel is imported via pipeline from Los Angeles area refineries yet the average price is currently $4.10 - $4.50 a gallon vs. $4.80-$5.20 in L.A. Load a tanker truck at the Las Vegas fuel terminal and drive it 60-80 miles over the county line to Pahrump and the same gas fetches $3.80 - $4.19 a gallon or 30 cents a gallon less than the Las Vegas prices..

Then there's the cost of electricity. Despite buying power from the same regional system operator as PG&E (Cal-ISO) our local electric co-op charges 12.5 cents per kilowatt-hour including fees and taxes. PG&E averages more than twice that at my sister's house in CA.

 

[DonTom]

their gasoline is refined in California and sent there via pipeline,

Do you know where that pipeline is ran? I assumed the gasoline was trucked in from CA.

BTW, diesel is now much cheaper than gasoline in Reno. I don't know about other places.

I have not checked the prices here in Auburn. I usually have no need to check on gasoline prices while here.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[Lou Schneider]

Do you know where that pipeline is ran? I assumed the gasoline was trucked in from CA.

BTW, diesel is now much cheaper than gasoline in Reno. I don't know about other places.

I have not checked the prices here in Auburn. I usually have no need to check on gasoline prices while here.

-Don- Auburn, CA

No, I've never researched it. Maybe it's transported by rail. If it was trucked in you'd literally have a continuous stream of tanker trucks going up and down I-80. Las Vegas is fed by several pipelines from Los Angeles, there was a big kerfluffle last year when one of them had to shut down for a while.

Diesel is temporarily lower because gas prices jumped to cover the expense of switching refineries from winter fuel to the more expensive mandated summer blend so fewer fumes evaporate into the air, despite modern cars having sealed fuel systems.

 

[Tom]

Per gas buddy... cheapest local gas here in Dallas is $3.13 for regular.

We've often found Amarillo to be the cheapest place to buy gas on our way to/from the MidWest. Also, prices are consistent from one end of town to the other.

 

[Tom]

I thought our local Safeway gas was expensive, currently $5.119 for regular, but that's $1.98 cheaper than that station in Menlo Park.

 

[Onyrlef]

Per gas buddy... cheapest local gas here in Dallas is $3.13 for regular.

$3.08 at Sam's Club- Spring Creek Pkwy., today.

 

[Skookum]

EV hair, don't care!

 

[DonTom]

I've never researched it.

I did, just now:

"Gasoline gets to Reno, NV through a few different methods:

1. Pipeline: Nevada relies on neighboring states to supply fuel. For instance, Las Vegas’s gasoline largely comes via pipeline from California.
2. Road Transport: Gasoline can also be transported by road. The cost of driving from California to Reno, NV is around $57.80 at current gas prices. Similarly, the cost of driving from Las Vegas, NV to Reno, NV is around $81.423.
3. Train: Amtrak’s California Zephyr offers one of the most beautiful train rides in North America and it runs through Reno. This could be another method of transporting gasoline."

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[DonTom]

I thought our local Safeway gas was expensive, currently $5.119 for regular, but that's $1.98 cheaper than that station in Menlo Park.

Menlo Park area DCFC rate is even cheaper than your home rate, if you charge during late night after 2200 hrs or before 1000 hrs.

"Payment Required
29¢ / kWh off peak

58¢ / kWh on peak

On peak is 10am to 10pm as of 7/12/22Peak was 11am to 9pm."

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[Chef Duane]

$3.08 at Sam's Club- Spring Creek Pkwy., today.

That's pretty good but Sam's in not Top Tier. I focused my search on that.