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The only downside with 2 factor is when I'm trying to access a site, with permission of course, of my partner. I have to call her: "Look at your IM and let me know the code they just sent you!" :rolleyes:
Being the resident geek, I'm the one who sets up most of these accounts. So I get the texts and calls for the 2FA codes :)
 
Right now, I am in Cherokee, CA (out in the middle of nowhere, NW of Nevada City). No cell coverage here, not even one intermittent bar--as dead as can be.

But they have local wi-fi and everything else right here. And a charge station, which I am now using, which requires that wi-fi.

This wi-fi is open to all, no passwords or anything. So I am now using my VPN and glad I have it for situations like this.

BTW, the default is off. I need to turn it on each time I want to use it. Since I noticed no difference when it is on or off, I have no idea why it defaults to off.

-Don- Cherokee, CA
 
I quit Norton because they were constantly trying to get me to sign up (and pay) for their VPN service. I have two mobile hotspots with passwords and such, plus virus and other security on my laptop, and have not had any problems. On the rare case when I have to use public internet, I just don't access bank accounts or anything similar.
 
Perhaps a computer expert here can give a better reply to this, but I think if they can get into your computer, they can do things you're NOT doing.

-Don- Auburn, CA
Banking websites are already encrypted, safe without a VPN. The bad guys won't get into your computer on an open wifi. Anyone that gains access to your computer will do so with a phishing email or malicious attachment that you fall for.

If they log into your bank it's because one of the 100's of other sites you used with the same login/password got hacked and they're trying all the banks with it to see if it works there too.
 
I use a vpn but not always. They are more useful for businesses but i use them when i pay bills online and sometimes they help me watch nfl games that i would otherwise be blocked from. They do give you more privacy but they can increase latency and affect things like games and zoom.

Imo firewalls are enough for most people. A good option in an rv is the wifiranger. I would rather be connected to the wifiranger than directly to my wifi hotspot cause it has a built in firewall and vpn.
 
We always use our NORD vpn on banking sites or when using our credit cards. Our Capital One cards let us use virtual cards that can only be used on the one site. So if anyone gets the virtual number it won't work anywhere else. Chuck
 
I use my VPN on my desktop every time I use my credit card or do banking. The only problem I have is it blocks sending or receiving emails.
I've read about ways to get around this, but it's no big deal. Some secure sites send an email or text access code for extra security, like healthcare sites.
It's no big deal since I still have my phone to receive these emails and texts.
 
I use my vpn for two things.

1. to circumvent draconian location based streaming services
2. to prevent my isp from examining my content and throttling certain media.

my vpn is a private setup with the endpoint at my house, no matter where i travel, my network
access appears as if i'm at home.
 
There seems to be some conflation of security issues and protection software in this thread.

VPNs will do nothing to protect you from phishing or any other malware attack on your computer or your phone/tablet. That is not their purpose. You need to use good sense with what you click on in emails, etc., and use a good virus/malware protection application on your device for that. BTW, the built-in Windows Defender is quite good, so Windows users generally have no need for anything else.

VPNs will also will not protect you from tracking for advertising purposes by the sites you are accessing. These sites install cookies on your computer whether you are using a VPN or not. They don't care, generally, what your IP address is or appears to be.

For online shopping at local stores (e.g. Target or Home Depot), a VPN can be a nuisance since it will cause those sites to assume you are in the city where you VPN service shows you to be (for me, in MN, that is typically Chicago).

What a VPN does do is prevent any third party (including your ISP) from snooping on your unencrypted internet traffic. It also disguises your IP address and physical location. It does this by encrypting all traffic to and from your device. Your device is actually communicating with the VPNs server rather than directly with the web site you are connected to. The VPN will act as a middle man ensuring that all of the traffic in and out of your computer is encrypted and that your actual IP address is not visible to anyone.

Of course, the VPN server itself needs to also be secure for any of a variety of attacks or mandated disclosures.

The legitimate use of a VPN for most people is to protect from "man-in-the-middle" type attacks, whether that is the seemingly innocent-looking dude on a laptop sitting in the McDonalds while you are using their hot spot or whether it is your ISP snooping for traffic-control or other purposes. Successfully doing a "man-in-the-middle" attack is highly technical and difficult, except for the fact that ready-made gadgets to do just that are available on the market if you know where to look for them.

BTW, when camping, do you REALLY know what kind of electronic snooping may be going on inside other RVs??? :eek::eek:;)

Illegitimate use of a VPN does allow you to pretend to be from somewhere else to bypass certain locality restrictions on web sites or services. It also allows you to hide your internet traffic from such disclosures as would come from a law enforcement search warrant, but if that is your intent, you need to use a VPN service outside of your home jurisdiction and/or one that keeps no logs of your activity.

I use Nord VPN, and have done for years. It is a German company, and Germany has some of the strictest personal privacy laws in the world. I wouldn't trust any of the USA big tech companies' VPN services any farther than I can spit into a hurricane.
 
Do most here use a VPN? The other day where there was no internet to activate a charge station, I had to use an open wireless system to enter a credit card number.

I decided that was a good time for me to start using a VPN. I am using AVG's VPN right now from my laptop as I am waiting for my Reno VA appointment.

The first time I tried a VPN. Was very simple to download and install for a few bucks per month.

Everything still works as normal, so far, with the VPN activated.

-Don- Reno, NV
Just about any legitimate website or app that handles payment info will use SSL. So your connection to the site is already encrypted, even on an open network.
 
When I was working everyone who worked remote had to use the corporate VPN.

In my volunteer gig now it's the same.

I rarely turn VPN off on any of my mobile devices.

My Media computers also use a VPN.

My home router has the capability to route everything through a VPN as well but I choose to let the individual devices handle it.
 
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Does that mean VPN's, such as the one I am now using (AVG Secure VPN) is worthless?

-Don- Tucson, AZ
No. They are similar but different. Vpn protects all traffic and everything behind the vpn. Ssl only protects the communication on a single website. Depends on what level of protection you want. Personally i prefer vpn because you dont know what data is being sent in the background.
 
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