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It seems to me we are already there with EV cars. Next will be when the average EV cost less than the average ICE.

But EV tires will probably always cost a bit more. More weight and MUCH better performance than ICE. To change all four tires on my Tesla M3 will cost around a thousand bucks, or $250.00 per tire, labor included. No trace of any noticeable wear on my Telsa M3 tires since 2018 at 13,120 miles. They still look much like new tires, makes me wonder if they should be changed after so many years.

My Telsa M3 AWD, LR weights 4,202 lbs.

-Don- Reno, NV
Not bad, my Chevy K1500 Silverado weight 4,9xx lbs. DW's Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited is 4,6xx lbs.
BTW I suspect your recognized tire noise is due to the lack of an engine and exhaust making noise.
 
You misunderstand, we're talking about the receipt from the UPS store, Staples, or UPS facility proving you left the item with them.
I do what you described, but instead of printing it out, I save it to my desktop. Who knows, I might be saving a tree!
OIC, but Amazon will let you know when you can throw those receipts away:

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-Don- Reno, NV
 
BTW I suspect your recognized tire noise is due to the lack of an engine and exhaust making noise.
I also assume so too.

I never knew drive chains and drive belts made so much noise until I had electric motorcycles with them. And if it had no chain or belt, I wonder what noise I would then hear. Can't win on this.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Be careful with using UPS. They started something new. At times, only happened to me once so far, now you may be are required to box the item. It happened to me a couple of months ago. But it only happened this one time. It spells it out in the email you get with instructions. The girl had an old box and threw my item in it. It saved me from having to buy a box from UPS.
 
Be careful with using UPS. They started something new. At times, only happened to me once so far, now you may be are required to box the item. It happened to me a couple of months ago. But it only happened this one time. It spells it out in the email you get with instructions. The girl had an old box and threw my item in it. It saved me from having to buy a box from UPS.
That is not new. It all depends on where your item is going. If it is going to Amazon you don't need a box for most items. If it is going to a third party then it needs a box.
 
I suspect your recognized tire noise is due to the lack of an engine and exhaust making noise.

Don't know about Teslas in particular but sound deadening in the chassis and doors adds weight, and it would seem logical that this feature is omitted transmitting a bit more road noise. I rode in my coworker's plug-in Prius a while back and was surprised at the amount of road noise it had for what seemed to be a fairly heavy midsize car.

You don't normally see it listed on consumer tire ratings but EV tires are optimized for lower rolling resistance. That translates to a harder compound and stiffer sidewall, which makes for a noisier tire. For a given wheelbase/cabin size, EV's are a good bit heavier than their ICE counterparts so that also translates to a higher load rating tire which are also inherently a bit less quiet. You can get LRR tires for any car but if they're spec'd for an EV it's usually a given.

Mark B.
Albuquerque, NM
 
One time one of our small items didn't arrive at Amazon before the return deadline, and our refund was reversed.

That's really unusual. I get my credits as soon as CVS Pharmacy scans the item. At that point it becomes CVS's responsibility. Often the credit is there before I get home from the pharmacy.

Another thing that can happen is mis-deliveries. I got a package intended for someone else and their address was not even close to me. I called Amazon and they told me to keep the package or dump it.

It was one of those soup in a box things. Probably because it was perishable they told me to dump it. Good soup but I never woulda paid $30 for it - LOL...
 
The only minor irritation I’ve ever had with Amazon was when I found both 32oz jars of Olive Salad broken when I opened the package. On the returns portal it declined the request and then when I called the person said the driver had indicated the pkg. was handed to the addressee. The reality was the driver ( slickster that he was) heard the jars break when they’d hit the porch and so they’d tried to cya by claiming I’d been handed the pkg. and so I must have dropped it. In the end they reluctantly credited the charge back to my card, so it was all good, even though the process was kind of irritating. I assume the only reason the driver would have lied is they must get dinged for mishandled deliveries.
 
I ordered a control switch assembly for my truck. The switch assembly had all the switches for opening all the windows, a lock door switch and the electric exterior mirror switches. I opened the box a found an assembly that was filthy and very used. Apparently someone ordered a new one, made a swap then shipped their defective assembly back to Amazon and I ended up with it. Apparently they don’t look at returned items very close.
The guy may have just said that it was ordered by mistake so Amazon just put it back on the shelf.
Amazon sent me a new one.
 
Yes, but that can be charged back later by Amazon.

-Don- Reno, NV
I think the only way they could justify that is if I mis-represented the returned item. I have dropped off at UPS stores and CVS and for a time there were some drop off co-located in a mall near where I lived. Like a Macy's or something.

In 20 years I have never had Amazon screw me. It might happen to someone and I won't dispute that but in every instance all we ever get is the consumer's side of the story.

When you actually think about Amazon's return policies they are really favorable to the consumer which IMO is a fair trade for buying stuff sight unseen.
 
Amazon is favorable until they aren't. Wait till you have some trouble that requires some critical thinking by a native English speaker who is empowered to make a decision. That person is a unicorn in the Amazon universe.

Common carrier (Amazon is this) pro tip: you do not own the delivery until you accept it. It being left on your porch is not a default acceptance. If there's any sign of damage, take pictures of the unpacking. Start with before you even touch it, given any visible flaws in the package. The more valuable the item is, the more careful about this you should be.

With adequate proof, Amazon will usually do the right thing. It can be a tall mountain to climb, depending on what the problem is.
 
I think the only way they could justify that is if I mis-represented the returned item.
And some people will.

I very rarely return any item for any reason. That Telsa ring which would not work at all is the only item I ever returned from Amazon, and I have been using Amazon for years. Most of the stuff I buy comes from them. The only time I use E-Bay is when I cannot find the item on Amazon.

Such as the Tesla Supercharger to CCS-1 adapter that I recently purchased. Just recently became available.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Such a garbage vehicle. It might pull my boat 80 miles.
Do you own one? Math not adding up well, IMO.

You can buy one with a 155 KWH battery which should be reasonable even for towing. But the standard battery is only 98 KWH, which is a lot of range until one is towing. At worst case, I would expect around 1.5 miles per KWH when towing something fairly heavy. So even the 98 KWH should be good for around 147 miles from a full charge to dead (including reserve) at reasonable speeds, normal temps (as much as 20% less when extra cold). 230 miles with the 155KWH battery. Double that when not towing anything.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Do you own one? Math not adding up well, IMO.

You can buy one with a 155 KWH battery which should be reasonable even for towing. But the standard battery is only 98 KWH, which is a lot of range until one is towing. At worst case, I would expect around 1.5 miles per KWH when towing something fairly heavy. So even the 98 KWH should be good for around 147 miles from a full charge to dead (including reserve) at reasonable speeds, normal temps (as much as 20% less when extra cold). 230 miles with the 155KWH battery. Double that when not towing anything.

-Don- Reno, NV
Nope. I’ve seen one in Alaska and he can’t “give” it away. He can barely tow a utility trailer without getting into trouble. I guess if you don’t really need a truck it’s fine to look at. It’s no surprise to me at all that Ford has given up on it.

I have an F250 7.3 and I can get where I want, when I want.
 
I think the best and the brightest have taken a good idea and come up with a way to make it into a not so good idea. An ev in an urban setting is a good idea, an electric truck costing between $50,000 and $90,000 which wouldn’t it make across the DFW metro and back pulling a ski boat, not so much.

Makes you wonder what kind of committee thought that would work out?
 
In keeping with the thread title, there's an ABQ ford dealer that was taking orders last year for mach-e's and lightnings, preselling some unknown number of them. On some of the RV forums there were some discussions how folks with preorders kept getting delivery dates pushed back for one reason or another. Recently this dealer is advertising that they have several dozen of each on the lot. There'd be two reasons for that, one would be a large increase in production or, a leveling or decrease in demand. Given the news stories how ford is cutting lightning production the appearance is that demand is waning. There is certainly a segment of the population that has money to spend on amusements but at some point you run out of those, and the Joe Sixpacks remaining aren't going to blow tens of thousands on an amusement.

Mark B.
Albuquerque, NM
 

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